Comments on: Infinity http://www.thelandofunlikeness.com/2009/04/27/infinity/ Catholic Anglican Reflections on Theology and Culture Sun, 11 Jul 2010 19:17:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Janet Leslie Blumberg http://www.thelandofunlikeness.com/2009/04/27/infinity/comment-page-1/#comment-1536 Janet Leslie Blumberg Wed, 06 May 2009 17:45:02 +0000 http://www.thelandofunlikeness.com/2009/04/27/infinity/#comment-1536 Wow. Two great passages! Wow. Two great passages!

]]> By: Dan http://www.thelandofunlikeness.com/2009/04/27/infinity/comment-page-1/#comment-1532 Dan Sat, 02 May 2009 14:47:03 +0000 http://www.thelandofunlikeness.com/2009/04/27/infinity/#comment-1532 Scott, I'm not sure exactly how they're inline. Could say more about that? Thanks Scott, I’m not sure exactly how they’re inline. Could say more about that?

Thanks

]]> By: Scott http://www.thelandofunlikeness.com/2009/04/27/infinity/comment-page-1/#comment-1531 Scott Sat, 02 May 2009 00:59:41 +0000 http://www.thelandofunlikeness.com/2009/04/27/infinity/#comment-1531 Sounds like Desmond is in-line with Duns Scotus. Sounds like Desmond is in-line with Duns Scotus.

]]> By: Dan http://www.thelandofunlikeness.com/2009/04/27/infinity/comment-page-1/#comment-1528 Dan Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:34:23 +0000 http://www.thelandofunlikeness.com/2009/04/27/infinity/#comment-1528 Brendan, I think that's right, and is part of my rationale for posting this quote. Desmond has a keen sense for the ineffability at the heart of being as such and experience. Additionally, I think his stuff on existence (particularly the etymological similarity of existere and exstasis) play an important role in thinking about how much we feel like we can draw lines around experience, regardless of how apophatically we do so. Brendan,
I think that’s right, and is part of my rationale for posting this quote. Desmond has a keen sense for the ineffability at the heart of being as such and experience. Additionally, I think his stuff on existence (particularly the etymological similarity of existere and exstasis) play an important role in thinking about how much we feel like we can draw lines around experience, regardless of how apophatically we do so.

]]> By: Brendan http://www.thelandofunlikeness.com/2009/04/27/infinity/comment-page-1/#comment-1526 Brendan Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:36:56 +0000 http://www.thelandofunlikeness.com/2009/04/27/infinity/#comment-1526 Dwade, Whil-ST also reading BatB last night, I happened across an insight that lends credibility to your position pace Dr. Pecknold's: (from page 466 - 467) : "AS already suggested, there is operative, in the dynamism of self-transcending, an immediate community of mind and truth. IT is this immediacy that generates the common sense conviction that really there is no question of truth at all. We are so immediately implicated in the embrace of truth that the question of its nature does not arise at all. We live the truth, we live a trust in the truth. Nor is this naive faith in truth wrong; rather it is elemental, given, and unsophisticated......." Anyway, as I understand him, Desmond seems to be suggesting that even though we can linguistically expose our immersion in the truth, this immersion is immediate - the immersion, that is our ontological and primordial unity with the truth, which allows us to reflect upon it via linguistic mediation, is fundamentally beyond mediation and thus immediate. That fact that truth can be articulated linguistically may indeed demonstrate that it gives itself over to mediation, but the fact that it cannot be linguistically denied without implicating its presence ("there is not truth" which, if true, implicates what it denies) means that there is in fact an immediacy of mind and being in the truth. Perhaps you ought to point this passage out to Dr. Pecknold to get his take on it. Anyway, thought you might find that interesting. BS Dwade,

Whil-ST also reading BatB last night, I happened across an insight that lends credibility to your position pace Dr. Pecknold’s:

(from page 466 – 467) : “AS already suggested, there is operative, in the dynamism of self-transcending, an immediate community of mind and truth. IT is this immediacy that generates the common sense conviction that really there is no question of truth at all. We are so immediately implicated in the embrace of truth that the question of its nature does not arise at all. We live the truth, we live a trust in the truth. Nor is this naive faith in truth wrong; rather it is elemental, given, and unsophisticated…….”

Anyway, as I understand him, Desmond seems to be suggesting that even though we can linguistically expose our immersion in the truth, this immersion is immediate – the immersion, that is our ontological and primordial unity with the truth, which allows us to reflect upon it via linguistic mediation, is fundamentally beyond mediation and thus immediate. That fact that truth can be articulated linguistically may indeed demonstrate that it gives itself over to mediation, but the fact that it cannot be linguistically denied without implicating its presence (“there is not truth” which, if true, implicates what it denies) means that there is in fact an immediacy of mind and being in the truth.

Perhaps you ought to point this passage out to Dr. Pecknold to get his take on it.

Anyway, thought you might find that interesting.

BS

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